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for the prime minister of the united kingdom and president of the united states used to launch a strong relationship, i had with president clinton and again with president bush. that is important, some of what you will do an informal meeting but it's also important to be able to discuss and i frankly with the issues were, and as i recall the discussion it was less to do with specifics about what we were going to do on iraq or indeed the middle east because the israeli issue was a big issue at the time. in fact i think i remember there have been conversations we had even with israelis, the two of us while we were there so that was a major part of all of this. but the principal part of my station was to try and say look in the end we've got to deal with various different dimensions of this whole issue. for me what happened after september 11th was i was starting to look at this whole issue to do with this unrepresented extremism in a different way and i wanted to persuade president bush but also get a sense from him as to where he was on the broad issue. -- what you're suggesting you were
, robust, comprehensive transportation bill for america. he gets it. when he was a united states senator, senator obama and i as a member of congress and our delegation from illinois worked very hard to transportation issues. after he became president, he said to the congress, we have to have a very strong infrastructure component in the economic recovery program. $48 billion. not insignificant. and so the president gets it. he wants a good bill. he wants a comprehensive bill. he wants a robust bill. we're going to work with congress on that. our dilemma is trying to find the $400 billion or $500 billion. if you look at chairman oberstar's bill which is a good bill by the way. it includes many things that we want to do. it is a good bill. it costs between 4 and $500 billion. that is our dilemma. that's what we have to work with congress on to try and find the resources to do that. we know that the highway trust fund is inadequate. people are driving less and they are driving more fuel-efficient cars and so we talked about thinking outside the box on how we fund these things. if you have
stated that iraq failed to take the last opportunity to cooperate. but at that point, dr. blix was not saying to the united nations, security council, compared to the decision of richard butler in december, 1998, who was absolutely clear that he was not getting the cooperation he sought from saddam hussein and the last report that dr. blix had given had been that he was getting in principal cooperation on process. that is what he was saying. now, you may disagree with that and think it is not necessarily a proper interpretation of the evidence, that you could see, but, that is what he said. so, in a sense you are having now to make the judgment to the security council on material breach. at that time, without the support of the statement by hans blix. explicit support. >> whether he thought the action was justified or not, his reports were clear, that the compliance was not immediate, and the cooperation unconditional and it plainly wasn't. indeed, actually on the 7th of march -- on his 7th of march document where he was obviously moving further along the road he says at page 3
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